peter brooks, former assistant deputy secretary of defense in the bush administration and rosa brooks, former assistant secretary of defense in the obama administration, pretty perfect, guys. rosa, i want to start with you on this issue of language and what this country calls a terror attack and what it doesn't. obviously it appears after benghazi it was not as clear as it was today. i wanted to play an exchange that happened between state department spokesperson victoria nuland and a reporter a week after the attack on the american consulate in benghazi. >> does the united states government regard what happened in benghazi as an act of terror? >> again, i'm not going to put labels on this until we have a complete investigation. okay? >> you don't regard it as an act of terrorism? >> i don't think we know enough. i don't think we know enough. >> all right, here, rosa, is what jay carney said today about the attack in turkey. >> a suicide bombing on the perimeter of an embassy is by definition an act of terror, it is a terrorist attack. >> it seems like that's a pretty direct reaction